Sunday, July 23, 2006

Unhuman quote of the day

"I am not buying into the innocent civilians meme. If by ignorance, complicity, neglect or helplessness the Lebanese wouldn't throw Hezbollah out and establish a strong government, then they must pay the price for the sins of Hizbollah." - Atlas Shrugs

I agree with Jesus General, fuck you Pamela. Tell that child's parents the children of Lebanon you're "not buying into the innocent civilians meme." As Alonzo suggests, look each of those children in the eye and tell them, "You deserve this because you did not throw Hezbollah out of the country and/or you did not force your parents to do so."


Maysun said...

This person - Atlas Shrugs - amazes me.

How can any decent person look at these photos and think them justified?

How can you, especially if you have children of your own, think its okay to do this to other people's children?

This is heartrending.

Hume's Ghost said...

"All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side ... The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." - George Orwell, Notes on Nationalism

Alonzo Fyfe said...

Heck, don't tell the parents that. Tell the child. Tell each child killed in this attack, "You deserve this because you did not throw Hezbollah out of the country and/or you did not force your parents to do so."

Hume's Ghost said...

Great point, Alonzo.

Ryan the Lion roar... said...

By this logic we were not innocent civilians when Al Qaeda committed the World Trade Center attacks. For aren't we all complicit in allowing the United States to have an interventionist policy that has resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians around the world?

That being said, any revolutionary, nationalist, or world leader will willingly sacrifice human lives for their goal. We all die. Most people don't deserve it. Some people do. Some people do deserve it and don't. It's not a black and white, orderly world like Atlas Shrugs wants it to be.

Umm Huraira said...

If I wanted to make the exact same argument Pamela Geller uses against Muslims, I could say that Geller feels the picture is fine because the Torah says, "Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!" (Psalm 137:9)

And that's the sick thing about Geller. The argument she draws upon could be done against any religion by cherry-picking sentences out of context to build a seemingly logical argument. She's using the exact same hate speech against Muslims as other people do against her faith - Judaism. (And really, the fact that she conflates all of Lebanon with Islam is just logically flawed.)